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Friday, July 16, 2010

Our Father

Dai Lute said...

Just Wonder if folks would like to comment on the following: " It is a betrayal of the 'Our Father' to pray 'My Father,' for the prayer is not only a declaration of a heavenlt parent, but it is a commitment to a new vision of family rooted in the providence and authority of our heavenly parent. We cannot have God as our father if we deny the sisterhood and brotherhood we share with the rest of God's children" This from "Becoming the Answer to Our Prayers - prayer for ordinary radicals" by Shane Claibourne and Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove" refer www.ivpress.com/title/exc/3622-1.pdf

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  1. Jack DawJuly 16, 2010 at 4:28 PM

    Do we become a child of God by our belief in Christ, by baptism or something else? If all our attitudes had to be completely sorted before we could be children of God who then could be saved? Certainly the acceptance and love of our brothers and sisters in Christ is to be encouraged but to become a condition of salvation - No, I don't think so.

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  2. Dai LuteJuly 18, 2010 at 7:04 PM

    Not sure if Jack Daw is getting it. It's not about our salvation- about 'getting saved', it assumes we are 'saved'. It's about recognising that we are part of a community and moving away from that old fashioned pietism that seldom gets past 'its just Jesus and me' (or my Father and me) and recognising that we are in the family of God and hol;ding that as being of utmost importance, something sacred. I judge a church's worship and "liturgy" by how much it says I, me & mine (George Harrison- Let it Be album anyone)in its songs and faith statements and how much it is about us and ours. Is it 'OUR Father in heaven' or 'Jesus is MY boyfriend"

    What difference does our language about things spiritual determine not only how we look to others on/from the outside but what is going on with and for us the inside, corporately and spiritually.

    Do theology with your heart. The heart rocks!!

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